
If that title sounds too good to be true, just hang on. It really IS true! I stained my bathroom vanity and I plan on doing my entire kitchen and other three bathrooms! It was easy and looks even better than the pictures show!
I found a tutorial on how to achieve this look. It gave me courage and hope. So I decided I would start with my bathroom and if it looked terrible I would buy a new vanity. Either way, I wanted a facelift. I was just hoping that staining would work since that is WAY cheaper!!
I am writing this tutorial as a companion to Monica's since I found several things along the way I thought I would share. Like she said, I only used General Finishes Java GEL Stain and General Finishes GEL Polyurethane. (In case you didn't notice the GEL is important.) I got my stain HERE. The poly I got can be purchased HERE. Original tute link is below.
- Tape off your area. Walls, floors and underside of countertop.
- Then you clean the vanity. The entire thing. I used a wet rag with a little bit of Dawn dish soap. Then I rinsed the rag out and wiped it with just water. Then I dried it.
- The insides of mine is the same golden oak color so I decided to do that too. If yours is white you could either tape it off and leave it white or you could stain it so it looks like it is wood! (You will probably need to do at least one extra coat of stain over white.)
- Note* Inside and on the sides is linoleum. And YES, I stained it!
- Then you rough up the surface. I did NOT say 'sand'. That is one of the things that makes this WONDERFUL! No sanding! Just rough it up. I always went with the grain. (Or on the linoleum parts I went the way I wanted my faux grain to go.) It took me about a half hour to do the entire thing. Inside, out, and both sides of doors. Use a sanding block. 220 grit.
- Then wipe it out twice. Vacuum the inside out. Mostly just around all of the edges.
- Use two disposible gloves and one men's sock. Yes, it needs to be men's so it goes up to your elbow! It keeps you cleaner! You will need a new sock for each application. I did not use a foam brush. I just used my fingernails through the sock and got in all of the grooves first. Then I did the flat surfaces.
- Use just a little bit of stain at a time. Do the edges first and then go across the surface. Make sure to use strokes that go from one side all the way to the other. Do the whole the thing in the same direction for the linoleum. (Pick the way you want the 'grain to go'.) Go with the grain on the real wood. It is going to look weird on your first coat, don't worry about it! You still have two more coats to go!
- Do 3 coats of stain and I did 3 coats of poly. Each coat of stain only needed 48 hours to dry and each coat of poly only needed 24 hours. I did wait 24 hours after the last coat of poly to re-assemble my cabinet. I live in Las Vegas, NV and did this in September. It is hot and dry. If you live somewhere humid or cold you will need to have longer drying times. Do not try to rush it or it won't turn out well. You will be able to feel it and see if it feels like it is completely dry. I did my doors in the garage on painters pyramids. I hate those things now. I would highly recommend getting the ones that screw into a board and doing that. I will be doing that next time. They flip all around when you are trying to stain!
- For this size cabinet it only took me about 15 minutes to stain the entire thing (per coat) and about 10 minutes for the doors. I did one side of the doors and then 24/48 hours (depending on which product I was applying) later did the other side. So your doors will take a lot longer than the cabinet. But you cannot flip it over just after you did the one side or it will ruin what you just did. Take it slow and you will have good results.
Monica says this does not work on unfinished wood. I put it to the test. I did some shelves for my movie theatre and I LOVED the results. Because they were unfinished I only needed two coats of stain to achieve my desired color and then did 4 coats of poly. Again, it takes a long time because I did one side at a time. I would do the front side and the top side and then flip it and do the back side and the under side at the same time. So I always knew which way to flip it so I never got confused. If it helps, make a note of what you did so you know what to do for next time. With that many coats and two sides, it is easy to forget how many of what you have already done.
So I would say, YES this DOES work on unfinished wood.
She says that any other color does not work. My aunt tried a different color on her bathroom vanity and she LOVES her results. You can see hers HERE.
I loved the General Finishes Gel Stain and Poly! It was easy to work with and did not have a strong smell!! It doesn't drip and applies evenly. I won't use a different kind ever again!
Feel free to comment with any questions and I will answer them the best I can.
P.S. I plan on getting hardware for them, but I haven't settled on which ones to get yet.
So here is my favorite part - the Before and After Pictures:
After Coat 1:
After Coat 2:
After Coat 3:
After 3 Coats of Stain and 3 Coats of Poly:
My Before and After!! I love it!
My Theatre Shelves (Unfinished Wood)
After 2 Coats of Stain and 4 Coats of Poly:
I really liked the color variation with two coats, I felt that three coats would have made it too uniform. Feel free to do more coats if uniform is what you are going for.
What do YOU think!?
HERE is the link to Monica's tutorial. I wrote this as a companion to hers.
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Fabulous! You did a great job! I've never used Gel but have heard lots of good things. Will definitely try this on my cabinet I've been putting off! Thanks for sharing! I found you via Pinterest and would love for you to stop by The Vintage Milk House!
ReplyDeleteI just ordered the General Finishes last Monday and it arrived on Friday. I am trying to syc myself up to do the Kitchen. I have 19 cabinet doors and four drawers.Big job but I know it'll be worth it.
ReplyDeleteHave you started on your kitchen yet?
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ReplyDeletewhich one are you using? semi-gloss, satin, clear gloss GEL (POLY).
Taz, that is a great question! I used Satin. It got a lot shinier with the third coat. (But I really liked the results!) I figured that it would need three coats since I have 4 kids and don't want it scratched! The more protection the better!
ReplyDeleteThanks for asking!
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I'll do Satin, because Its for my kitchen and i'm doing an expresso&black. it should turn out nice with all that shine. Thanks!!
ReplyDeleteWas your cabinet real wood? I'm trying to figure out if this will work on my cabinets I have. We have new builders cabinets in our house we just bought. I'm pretty sure the doors are real wood, but I cant say for sure if the rest of the cabinet is or not. Would this technique work on roughed up particle board with a very smooth finish?... it might even be laminate, but I can't be certain. Its really hard to tell because I always pictured laminate being the bad wood grain on your grandmas kitchen table, lol. My cabinets look like real wood, are very smooth and are decieving. I'm scared to start this incase it ends up not working out on the sides of my cabinet, like if it wouldnt stain it right or adhere correctly because of the type of "wood"/finish I have.
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Andrea
Andrea, my cabinet is mostly pressboard with laminate over it. The only things that are real wood are the front face of the cabinet and the doors. The side, kick, and inside are all laminate. I roughed it up just like the wood and treated it like it was wood. The only difference is I rubbed on the stain the way I wanted my 'grain' to go instead of going with an obvious grain. It still turned out great! The secret to the gel stain is to not wipe it off. Use a small amount that is enough to cover. Wipe off any lumps or excess but leave it on the cabinet. You should be fine! Good luck with your project!! I hope this helps!
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Thanks for clarifying that! How well does it clean? Have you had any problems with it wiping off? I frequently wipe down the outside because the cabinet in my guest bath is so close to the toilet.
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Can I ask where you got your stain at and what the color was called?
ReplyDeleteAndrea,
ReplyDeleteI got my stain from here (In the 'Java' color): http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2005555/16545/general-finishes-java-gel-stain-quart.aspx
That is the exact one I got. My poly was this one:
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2005555/16557/general-finishes-clear-satin-topcoat-gel-quart.aspx
If you are only going to do a small bathroom get the smaller size. If you are doing an entire kitchen (or like me, 4 bathrooms AND an entire kitchen) you will need the largest size. But a little goes a LONG way.
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Thank you so much! I just used my long weekend and did my bathroom! I LOVE it so much! It looks so professional!
DeleteLove love this, don't supposed it would work on the cheaper laminated like bathroom cabinets?
ReplyDeleteThat is one of the GREAT things about this! It DOES work on laminated cabinets. I gave detailed instructions on how you can do it on your laminate parts. The cabinet in the picture is only wood on the doors and the front face. The entire inside, side and kick are all laminate! It turned out great!! Give it a try! You'll love it too!
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Really great blog and one of the best blogs I have visited with excellent responses to viewers questions, outstanding!! I will definately be a follower and appreciate your talents and for sharing them!!
ReplyDeleteThank you!! I am so glad to know that people like my blog and all of the work that goes in to it. :-) Thanks for commenting and letting me know.
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I have an older house and would like to redo my bathroom cabinets. They are dark already but are in bad shape(scuffed, worn) and they look like shutters. There are 3 of them and then the outside of course, what would you recommend for these? I really love how yours turned out!! We have wood paneling in the bathroom to so I would ideally like to brighten the bathroom so what about a lighter color? Your thoughts and feedback are really appreciated!!
ReplyDeleteIf you want them to still be dark like this tutorial, I would suggest sanding them in the areas that they look fairly worn and just roughing up the rest of the cabinet. You know, kind of just smoothing it out but making sure the whole thing was done so the stain will apply evenly.
ReplyDeleteAs to the wood paneling, that is totally up to you. I hate wood paneling so I personally would rip it down, texture the top half of the room and wainscot the bottom half. If you like it and it already looks the way you want, then I would think about either painting it off-white (creamy). I would then probably glaze it. (I have not used a lighter stain so I cannot suggest which one to use.)
It is really hard for me to tell you though since I really can't see what you have or your taste for decor. Good luck! I hope it turns out great!
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Ok so I decided to be brave and try this out because my restroom console looks just like yours, seriously identical. I had an Elmer's glue glaze on mine from the previous owner so of course I sanded that off. I've done two coats of stain so far. When I went back the second time, I noticed that in one section the stain came off... any idea why? Also the groves from the grain aren't accepting the stain as well. Anything will help me at this point!
ReplyDeleteI had this same issue with the third coat also. Did you finish it and did you figure out how to avoid it? I let my coats dry for 24 hours but, it still lifted part off in spots.
DeleteBecause of the weather and temperature right now it will probably need at least 72 hours to dry if you are having lifting problems with 24 hours. What I would do is leave it to dry and after 72 hours I would go over any problem areas. It is hard for me to troubleshoot when I can't see what you've done or what is happening, but that is what I can think of. Good luck!
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It sounds like you are treating it like regular stain and wiping it off. If that is the case, that is the problem. You apply the stain in a light coat and leave it on. It kind of goes over like a paint would. There really shouldn't be an area that doesn't 'accept' it because of that. Or a spot that comes off. I'm hoping that solves the problem! Let me know if you have more troubles!
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Does this leave the cabinets sticky at all!?
ReplyDeleteNo, they are not sticky. They are smooth and solid like a regular cabinet. It is only sticky when it is still wet.
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Can I use this stain over white paint?
ReplyDeleteYes, you can do it over white. You will most likely need to use 4 coats of stain instead of 3, but it should work just fine!
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I had the same question, but the previous owner used an oil based paint over latex(i may have the backwards) and the paint peels off in parts so do you think I could still just stain over or need to sand all of it before?
DeleteThanks for the tips! I plan to use this tutorial on two dressers, and my closet doors in the spring. Wish me luck!
ReplyDeleteI have a table that is already stained a light color and it has a coating over it (like a sealer I guess) I want to stain it this dark color- do I need to sand down the table to the real wood? It is in very good shape and does not have scratches or anything- I just want it a darker color. Also, I have a buffet that I am wanting to stain the same as the table, however it is nit in very hood shape and is stained a different color- still pretty light- and it may also have some type of sealant. If I want these two pieces to match, do I need to sand them both, or just use the sanding block like you mentioned? I am just worried that the stain won't turn out right since the table and buffet are Already stained and sealed... And btw I've never done this before! Lol thanks for any help you can offer!!! :)
ReplyDeleteIt will work just fine on both your table and buffet. They should even turn out the same color despite the difference to start with. You will need to use the sanding block to rough them up, but no, you do not need to "sand" them! This tutorial along with Monica's will give you great results no matter what you're staining! Good luck!
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Thank you so much! I really appreciate your help!!!
DeleteI just did my powder room ala Monica and I am THRILLED with the results. I used the Cherry Gen. Finish Gel and it is a close match to my cherry kitchen cabinets. I see more of the grain in my cabinet than the tutorials and I wonder if that is the Cherry vs. Espresso but it is the look I was going for. I probably could have waited longer between coats but got impatient only 12 hrs between coats. And I didn't wait long enough to let them dry and when I put them in I scratched the finish on one. SO time is money, don't do what I did, wait! That said I love the outcome and friends think the old honey oak is in the dump.
ReplyDeleteWhat I haven't seen anyone mention is how it seems to "heal" the wood. My cabinets had no knobs and after 25+ years of opening drawers with wet hands the finish was gone, ruined and rough in places. Now you can't see where that was, the gel filled in the areas.
Your cabinet looks great! I also have honey oak cabinets and used the General Finishes Java gel stain to redo all 3 of my bathrooms. It looks like I purchased new vanities. My kitchen is next. This product is great!
ReplyDeleteI have a china hutch and large dining table that I want to do in black. What do you think? Is black gel available?
ReplyDeleteDid you sand in between coats? LOVE your tutorial!! THANK YOU!!! :)
ReplyDeleteCarrie, thanks for the information! I'd love to see a picture of your cherry color. I do have to say that in person you can see a lot more grain than in the pictures. (Which I love.)
ReplyDeleteSharon, I'm glad it worked great for you as well! I love it too. I plan on doing my kitchen too!
I did some research and it looks like black stain is available. With the ease of applying and the detail after, I would recommend using the stain instead of painting. I am sure it will look way better than paint!
Janae, NO! Do not sand between coats! I hope I told you in time so you didn't do that. Just wipe it on and leave it. The do it again for the other coats. No wiping off or sanding between coats.
Thanks for the feedback and questions, ladies!
Don't forget to check out th rest of my blog for lots more great stuff!
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THANKS for your reply! I started sanding and then decided against it! I'm about to start the poly! Yikes! Do you have somewhere we can post our finished products using your method? :)
ReplyDeleteLOVE this blog!
Janae, I have looked and looked on how to be able to post pictures in the comment box. I can't figure out how to do it!! Just email me your picture and with your permission I will post it in a blog post! :-) (I am going to try to keep looking, but I'm not sure I can do it.)
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Woohoo! A couple more days and I'll be done! I'll show you, I love it. :) Thanks!
ReplyDeleteBeautiful!!!! Love a girl that can do it herself..You go girl.
ReplyDeleteSo do you consider the end color to be black? The java color on the website looks brown. Thank you!
ReplyDeleteNo, it is not black. I am not an expert photographer so my pictures really don't do it justice. It does look java brown and you can still see the grain. It really does look beautiful. They do have a black color stain if that is what you are going for.
ReplyDeleteGood luck!!
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How did you apply thr poly?
ReplyDeleteI bought a hutch a few years ago in a garag sale an painted it black to match my dining table. I love the black but seeing your pics I wish I would have stained it instEad. Would you suggest roughing it up and staining black over the black paint or do you think it would even make a difference?
ReplyDeleteI applied my poly the same way as the stain. Light coats put on with a sock. I still went with the grain.
ReplyDeleteIf you have already painted the piece and want to do the same color, I wouldn't bother. That is just me though. It is a lot of work to look very similar. Had you not done it yet, I would highly recommend doing the stain instead of paint, but it seems unnecessary to do it all over at this point.
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Do you by chance have a picture of your whole bathroom with the cabinet completed? I'm just trying to picture how the Java color looks with accessories in the room, to see if this color is for me.
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I don't currently have a picture of the whole bathroom. It is really small and I'm not sure I could even take a picture of the whole thing. I will work on it and add it to the post later if I can get it.
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So I'm curious... The old owners decided it was a good idea to paint our nice wooden cabinets WHITE! Well after a few years of wear and tear they don't look so hot... Could this work on top of the paint or would we have to totally sand the cabinets down do you think?
ReplyDeleteI guess this bathroom tools are good quality and will last long, I'm looking for a good quality materials that I'm going to use in my home.
ReplyDeleteI'm working on this this weekend! Ty :) can u tell me the brands that you used because I'm on my way to lowes! :)
ReplyDeleteGood luck! I'm not sure Lowes will carry this and I cannot recommend any other kind as I have no good experiences with what the box stores carry. I bought mine of off WoodCraft.com
ReplyDeleteOnly use General Finishes Java GEL Stain and General Finishes GEL Polyurethane.
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Chelsi, I see that I never responded to you! Sorry for that.
ReplyDeleteI have to say that it COULD work over the paint if it was roughed up enough. BUT if they were my cabinets I would strip them and then stain them. I wouldn't want to risk having my stain chip off because the paint under it did. I also don't think you would get the nice looking grain through the paint. So personally I wouldn't.
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I can't wait to get started on my project. I also can't believe my good fortune. There's a Woodcraft location practically around the corner from my house. SCORE!
ReplyDeleteKathryn, that is awesome! I'm kinda jealous! ;-) I wish I had one around the corner. (But my husband is probably glad there isn't one! I have enough projects as it is!)
ReplyDeleteNo, I haven't started on my kitchen yet. I cannot afford all of the things I want to do to it so I am waiting until I can. It may be a little while.
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Great blog...looking at doing this on my bathroom cabinet this weekend! Quick question - when you say 3 coats and 48 hrs to dry for each coat, does this mean for the doors you will need to wait 48 hrs for each coat on each side, or do you mean 24 hours for each coat, each side, which would then equal to 48 hours, based on there being two sides to the door?
ReplyDeleteSince it is cold outside I would do 48-72 hours per side. The colder and more humid, the longer it takes. I did 48 hours per coat, per side and it was in the 90s outside. Don't rush it or it will get bad results. Good luck!!
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Thanks for getting back to me...wow 12 days to dry...OK thanks at least now I know how long it'll take :)
ReplyDeleteAlso followed Monica's tutorial and mine turned out perfect too. next bathroom then the kitchen. I used the other Poly, (not the gel) in the Satin and got a great finish.
ReplyDeleteI'm on the first coat in my Master bathroom vanity and it looks pretty good. The Gel works great! It's easy to use and the gel goes a long ways-
ReplyDeletesame here next the second bathroom and on to the kitchen..
Andrea,
ReplyDeleteWhat's the main differences between gel and liquid stain? I've only stained a few times so I'm not too sure. Just wondering why you chose to use gel on your project?
Thanks.
I've worked with both gel and liquid and there are several reasons why I like it WAY better.
Delete1. It doesn't run and get all over everything. It only applies to what you put it on and doesn't really make a mess.
2. It doesn't have a strong odor.
3. It applies easily and you do not have to wipe it off. You put it on and let it dry.
It was MUCH easier to work with and I really like the results. I will never use the liquid kind again.
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My bathroom cabinets are dated and I want to try this. Mine are light stained and have polyurethane finish. Can I still just slightly rough up or do I need to strip them?
ReplyDeleteMine had polyurethane finish as well. You will only need to rough it up. Just follow the directions and you will get the same results! :-)
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Love this!!! I should try it on my bathrooms both have the same cabinet colour and i don't like that colour at all. But one project at a time. :) Just finish bulding a laundry room in my unfinished basement and now i am finalising my walk in closet( well not me, we have someone doing for us when it's big projects). Can't wait to show it on my new blog ( I am a new blogger). I am a new follower on yours. Great stuff. :)
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I would love to see it when you are done! You should link your blog back in the comments once you get your pictures on there so I can see it! Good luck!
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Thank you.:) here is my new blog. would love to have you join in if you like. :)I will for sure link it when i do it, but i am so scared to do this. hehehe I just finish my walk in closet if you wish to check it out.
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I have used the Java on one bathroom cabinet, turned out great! I have also used the Antique Walnut on a bathroom vanity, and am currently working on my kitchen (25 doors, 7 drawer fronts). 5 doors left to go!!!!
ReplyDeleteLooks SO MUCH better than the old 1980's red oak cabinet. We built in a Wine/beverage area, and got rid of the dreaded desk in the kitchen, and finished the "raw wood" to match the pre-finished. I just did one less coat.
I'm curious how this holds up over the long term. Does anyone have experience say 2 years later? Does the stain wear off or does it stay? it seems that putting it over the existing and only roughing it up may impact long term results. Thoughts?
ReplyDeleteI am going to do this on my bathroom cabinets and i bought the stain tonite and realized your blog says to use gel stain. I got minway wood finish stain. It doesn't say gel on the label. Can i still use this kind or do i need the gel kind for into work?
ReplyDeleteYou do need to use a gel stain to follow these directions. I have never had luck just roughing anything up and then using a liquid stain. You also need gel polyurethane. Good luck!
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I stained my bathroom cabinets around 6:00 pm yesterday and its now 5:17 pm and they still feel odd, maybe tacky but not wet. Im not sure if they are going to feel super dry before I start the Poly? Im only doing one coat of the stain because my husband likes how the wood grain shows. Is it too soon to put the Poly on?
ReplyDeleteRecommend future use tiny eye hooks on the side you want see - like the bottom of door edge or shelf back edge. Then hang and do all sides at once.
ReplyDeleteWant show = won't show.
ReplyDeletewhat kind of paint brish did you use? just a normal bristle brush?
ReplyDeleteI used a men's sock. The tutorial will explain. If you use a brush you get undesirable lines through your end result.
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This is a great blog. Im ready to paint!
ReplyDeleteApproximately how many cans of each will it take for a kitchen with 24 cabinets and 8 drawers. Thank you!
Can you post a picture of the paint? I love out of the US and not sure I can find exactly the same one, thank you!
ReplyDeleteThis is awesome! Thank you for posting...It has planted a seed in my head...What are your thoughts of using General Finishes gel stain to stain an oak banister? I read your post thoroughly, and think it might work, and maybe easier than painting? (since I won't have to strip the shiny stuff off first).
ReplyDeleteI don't know how many cans it will take to do that size of a kitchen. I would start with two quarts and get more as needed. It depends on the size of your cabinets and how thick you put your coats on!
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I can't post a picture of the stain (it is stain and not paint) but this is where I bought it and it has a picture there (I bought the 'Java' color):
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2005555/16545/general-finishes-java-gel-stain-quart.aspx
That is the exact one I got. My poly was this one:
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2005555/16557/general-finishes-clear-satin-topcoat-gel-quart.aspx
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I would TOTALLY do an oak banister! My mom did hers with regular liquid stain and it was the worst EVER! Seriously took like 100 hours. This would have been WAY easier! We kick ourselves for not finding this sooner! And yes, I would agree that it would be easier than painting as well!
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Excellent! Great job.
ReplyDeleteI'm sooo excited that you shared this info to all of us women that hate our ugly light wood cabinets!!! I have the same ones in my kitchen, and I'm going to try it! One question, can I stain over my hinges? Taking them all off sounds like a lot of work! And it would save me money not having to buy dark hinges?
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Amanda
Hi there!
ReplyDeleteI have a question - I have stained my bathroom cabinets as well as most of my kitchen. I have done 3 coats and waited 24 hours in between coats for it to dry. Looks great! Monica's post says to wait 5 days before sealing. Do you think this is necessary or could I seal after 4 days? I really want to get the doors back on before we move into our new house! Thanks for the blog - it's great!!
Amanda, I would not recommend staining over your hinges. It will goop them up and they won't work right. It really was easy to take them out and put them back in though. I dreaded that part too but it was no big deal. Just a couple short screws. Only took a few seconds. And if you did do it it would scratch off and look bad eventually. Also. You shouldn't need to buy dark hinges, I didn't and you can't tell at all! It doesn't even stick out when I open it. It should be fine to use what you have. Good luck!
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Anon, I think that if your cabinets feel totally dry and you've already waited four days, that it is safe to poly coat them! Yay!
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Yay! thanks so much for the quick reply...and for all of the freezer recipes. I now have an even longer to do list! :-)
DeleteDo the extra coats hide the first coat imperfections? Although I tried to do long even strokes all the way across the surface, some areas don't look too good, like on the edges and where two pieces meet.
ReplyDeleteChristie, yes they will. Just add more there on the second coat and it should hide it and even it out. You could even do 4 coats if you still feel like it needs it. Good luck!
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Do you need to sand between coats of stain and poly?
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I got my stain today! Love the color. In your instructions you say to was 48 hours between coats but on the container it says 6 to 8. Why do I need to wait 48?
DeleteI got my stain today and I love the color! In your instructions you say to wait 48 hours between coats but on the stain container it says 6 to 8. Why is there such a difference in time?
ReplyDeleteIt really all depends on the weather. If it is cold and rainy it will take days. Maybe even 4-5 days. If you are doing it outside in Las Vegas in August, it would be done almost as soon as you applied it. I said 48 because that is how long I waited and it is a fairly safe length. If you can rub the wood with your fingers without it feeling tacky or fearing that it might rub off, then it is dry and ready for the next coat. I hope that helps!
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We are in the midst of painting our bathroom cabinets and they currently have a coat of white primer on them. Would this technique work over the coat of primer?
ReplyDeleteIt should. You'll still need to rough it up with your sanding block and you will need at least 4 coats to get good coverage, but it still should look great in the end!
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Can you still shower in the bathroom that you are staining the cabinets in?
ReplyDeleteYes you can. Just don't touch the cabinet while it is still tacky. Humidity makes it dry slower though so you many need to give it extra time.
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Nice Article! Thanks for sharing with us.
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Can you use this gel stain on a wood floor and would it scuff off?
ReplyDeleteI don't know. I haven't used it for something that gets that much wear. I would call the company and ask what their thoughts are.
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There were a couple of small spots that I failed to cover when taping off near the bottom of my vanity. What is the best way to fix this now that I have 3 coats on? I haven't put the poly on yet.
ReplyDeleteIf you haven't put your poly on, it shouldn't be a problem yet! I would use either my finger or a q-tip and triple coat the missed spots. After you like how it looks, then you can apply poly.
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I want to do my kitchen but I'm so nervous plus the drying time kind of scares me, especially having 4 y/o hands running around. I also have an oven and microwave that are enclosed on the sides by my cabinets and it's going to be a huge job...I'm scared...LOL!
ReplyDeleteIt is kind of scary! But this gel is pretty forgiving. If you need to, you can take it one section at a time. If you do your doors and drawers in your garage your kitchen will only be out of use for one week. (Those will take about two weeks in the garage before you can out them back on.) I have a built in oven and microwave too but I'm going to tape around them. But in just a couple weeks you can transform your kitchen!! It is a really big job but I am really looking forward to it! (I just need a larger budget before I can take on the task. I'm doing some re-modeling while I'm at it.)
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I have Thermafoil cabinets. Would this technique work on them?
ReplyDeleteNo. I would try paint that says it adheres to metal.
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I just stained an old desk with the java gel stain and it turned out amazing!! But then I decided to cheap out and do a regular lacquer from home depot and I brushed on one coat on one drawer front and it took the stain off in places and gummed up the finish. Aaaaahhhhh!!!!! So now I'm thinking I should have gone with the gel poly you and Monica recommended. My question is how did you apply the poly? The same sock method? BTW, I let the stain dry for 6 days!!
ReplyDeleteOh no!!! I would sand off that drawer, re-apply the stain and then do it again with the gel poly! That is terrible!
DeleteYes, apply the poly the same way as the stain. Just with a sock.
-Mama
Hi !
ReplyDeleteI am reading thru the comments to see if I can answer my own question but guess not.
In what order did you do the Gel Stain and Gel Poly ?
Does the Poly get applied after all the coats of gel stain are done?
Or do you apply the Poly after each coat of Gel Stain?
Thanks!
I have the same question as Laura. I just applied my first coat of stain and was reading the comments as It wasn't clear if you did one coat of stain then one coat of poly or if you do 3 coats of stain then 3 coats of poly? I also wiped off my first coat of stain :( - next coat I will leave on until dry, hope I did't ruin it. So please clarify if we do 3 coats of stain then 3 coats of poly or is it stain then poly then stain, poly and stain poly Thank you !
ReplyDeleteLaura & Kim,
ReplyDeleteYou do three coats of stain and then three coats of poly. If it wipes off it is easy to fix. Just re-apply to that area, let completely dry and then do your second coat. My mom had that happen and it still looks fabulous! The key is to make sure that it is completely dry before doing another coat of anything. That is why I waited so long between coats. Monica waited even longer.
Good luck!
-Mama
Thanks Laura, can't wait to see it done. Yours was beautiful and thanks for the help :)
ReplyDeleteI wonder if you've tried the new liquid sander stuff? My cabinets look just like yours in my kitchen and wondered if that might be easier than a sanding block?
ReplyDeleteyou said this:She says that any other color does not work. My aunt tried a different color on her bathroom vanity and she LOVES her results.
ReplyDeleteand i wonder if that's what you meant to say cuz it doesnt make sense ...to me!
Danielle,
ReplyDeleteNo I haven't tried the liquid sander but with the fumes that it probably has and the fact that the sanding block only took me a few minutes and was easy, I won't be trying it. It really is just roughing it up and not sanding so it was quick and easy.
Tricia,
Monica said that the other color gel stains don't work. But my aunt tried a different color and it DID work for her. So I was de-bunking the 'other colors don't work' myth that was out there. I hope that makes more sense.
-Mama
I read Monica's blog also, I was wondering why she said it wouldn't work on unfinished wood. The store that sells General Finishes where I live is an Unpainted Furniture store. They sell the products so you can use on their unpainted furniture .
ReplyDeleteYou are a LIFESAVER!!! I have never done anything like this before but I am moving into a home that needs a complete makeover so I will definitely try this before I buy all new cabinets! Thank you!!!
ReplyDeleteHi! I really want to do this with my bathroom vanity and also a wooden step that goes up into our tub. However, we only have the one bathroom and obviously we need to take showers at some point. I'm worried the moisture will effect how the stain dries. Do you think I could do the woodwork tonight and be able to take a shower tomorrow morning? If you think this will be an issue with the step can I at least get the first coat of the cabinets done?
ReplyDeleteIt depends where you live. I live in the desert so I could get away with staining (both the cabinet and the step) after showers in the morning and then waiting until the next morning to shower again. If you live in a really humid area, you may need to not shower except for every other day. (Maybe keeping your door open while you shower would help.) It is hard for me to say. It holds up great after it is dry but I've had people say that when they go to put the second coat on the first coat wipes right off. That will happen if you try to re-apply while it is still wet. That being said, you cannot touch it while it is not completely dry either. So you would need to be really careful as you got out of your shower.
DeleteThis is probably what I would do; I would let it dry for 48 hours between coats. So - Day 1- shower and then stain. Day 2 - shower but don't touch anything. Day 3-Shower again then stain.
Keep repeating that pattern until it is done. That should be a safe enough time to do it even with the moisture levels. (Just don't drip water onto your stain.)
It is a pain during the process but SO worth it when it is done. And it does hold up well in a bathroom with the moisture and abuse after it is dry.
Good luck!
-Mama
Will this work on interior doors that are painted? I was going to paint them black, but really like the look of this.
ReplyDeleteYes it will. Just remember to go with the grain carefully or it won't look very good.
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Hi. I am remodeling my house to get it ready to put on the market. I live in Texas and ordered the GF Java Gel Stain. I sanded by cabinets and applied the first coat of stain with an old sock. I am currently panicking. First of all the stain has so many streaks and doesnt look smooth AND many areas look cloudy. Is this normal!?!?!?! Am i putting TO much stain on the sock causing the streaks? Somewhere I read that is goes on like paint and thought i might be applying to thick but even with thin coats i have streaks. I have used various socks but still streaky. Please help!!!!
ReplyDeleteI know this sounds scary but the problem is that your first coat is too thin. The first coat is supposed to be applied liberally with any excess wiped off. To fix it you will need to wait for it to dry and then put a liberal coat over it. It should even it out. Even if it doesn't on the second coat, just do 4 coats instead of 3. It isn't a problem. It WILL look the same as mine in the end. Just keep going.
DeleteLet me know if you have any other problems. Also, make sure you let each coat completely dry before applying the next one so you don't have additional issues.
Good luck! You can do it!
-Mama
I am still having issues with this. I have figured out how to apply the stain so as not to have streaks. My issue now is the poly. No matter how I apply it it has streaks in it, as if I used a comb to put it on AND some parts are shiney others are cloudy. I am having to redo half of my cabinets because the first ones look horrible from the stain being streaky, as in not smooth. I have tried putting the poly on thick, thin, and everything in-between. I have tried lightly sanding between coats, not sanding etc. I actually love the cabinets BEFORE i put the poly on but need a little bit of shine to them. I am so frustrated. ALso need to mention if you are doing a big kitchen mark your cabinet and hinges. I was trying to hang some of the cabinets and none of them are lining up right. I am going to hire someone to come in and hang them.
DeleteI am sorry that you are having problems with the poly! I never had those problems so I don't know what to tell you other than to call the manufacturer and ask what they suggest. I know a LOT of people that have used it and this doesn't seem to be a common problem so I would see what they have to say. Good luck! I hope you end up happy with the results.
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Hello! I really want to do with the bathroom vanity, and a wooden step in our bathroom. But of course, that there is only one bathroom and take a shower at some point. Affected moisture will affect how the city dry.
ReplyDeleteRegard's,
Ben Linus,
Cheap Taps Manchester
It will affect how it dries, but you can still do it. You just need to not touch it and give it a longer drying time if you are using the shower while it dries. See above comment for what I recommended for the same thing.
DeleteGood luck!
-Mama
This is probably a dumb question, but how exactly do you use the sock? Do you put the stain onto the sock and then rub it onto the door/drawer? And if so, do you just dip it in there? I don't even know how to ask this question! I hope you understand what I'm getting at.
ReplyDeleteThat isn't dumb. It may not be instinctive. Yes, you just put the sock on over your arm, dip your fingers in the stain and rub it around with your fingers. I felt that it was much easier than a brush because I can completely control it with my fingers and it doesn't leave the brush marks. Just remember to go with the grain or on linoleum parts, go the way you want your 'grain' to go. If you apply in circles or crooked motions, it will not look good.
DeleteGood luck!
-Mama
Do you know how the poly would work and look going over the existing honey finish? As much as I would LOVE to do the staining, my house has lots of wood trim and it's all the same honey tone as the cabinets. Plus, with 19 doors and 11 drawers the kitchen would be a rather staggeringly large project to tackle. I think staining the beautiful java might look odd with the honey trim. I think sprucing up the finish and adding hardware (there's none) for interest might be the better route. If you have any DIY tips for replacing cracked and broken circular plastic shelving in a lower corner lazy Susan built in cabinet without having to rip the whole bloody thing out, I could use it!
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